@Pygoscelis Papua .. I like that you do something for friendica.. Maybe a real theme / template would be even better.. because when Frio changes.. you have to adapt again.. I think

@Pygoscelis Papua The proposed change looks good.

Good suggestion, and thank you for taking the time to improve the UI on Friendica!

The last option looks really nice 👍❤️

I'm wondering a bit whether (likes, dislikes, reshares) and those related to attending should be separated somewhat in the UI? By spacing, a box or something?
Not for design reasons but more UX.

Here's a quick mockup based on yours:

I just realized there is potential problem with this on mobile. If one of the engagement counts is on the right-hand side the pop-over box will be partly off-screen causing horizontal scrolling and breaking the rest of the mobile layout. But there is no way to be certain any given engagement count will be on either the left or right.

In my example it shows all possible engagements. But it's possible a post might only have Likes or only Reshares, in which case it would be on the left. But if it has all of them the Reshares might be on the right. Same problem with the attendance. If all you have are Maybes it would be on the left, if you have some of all possible RSVPs then Maybe would be on the right.

There's no way to anticipate if there will be a pop-over list and no way to know if it will be on the left, center, or right. Normally something like that would be repositioned with JS to prevent it appearing partly off-screen. I can't think of any CSS-only means of controlling it here. It's not as much of a problem for the desktop layout, but horizontal won't work on mobile.

As least as a vertical list I know the pop-over will always be to the left-hand side and no part of it will be off-screen.

I'll need to play with this more on my dev server.

BTW, I'm not seeing any comments on friendica.world from anyone other than @xy.. - I do see that there are other comments on this post on @Friendica Support but can't reply to them from my instance.

Spent some time revisiting this. Not sure now whether to implement it at all frankly.

After initially trying to arrange it as suggested by @marcus suggested I gave up trying to do it with flex or grid and ultimately I still wound up never knowing if an element would end up on the right or left to adjust the pop-over positioning. Part of this is because the containers exist whether they have anything in them or not and even :empty pseudo-class wasn't helping. I ended up just using old-school floats, because then I could at least be assured the Event responses would always be to the right to adjust the pop-over positioning. The downside is that the attendence counts are in the reverse order of the buttons because of float: right;:



It was also problematic to put the "Reactions and Reshares" and "Attendance" labels because all the engagement counts are in a single .wall-item-responses container, and that isn't the only place that class name is used.

But I don't think this floated horizontal list will work on mobile really at all. It looks pretty messy if you keep the one set of responses floated left and the other still float right:



Which still does not fix the issue with the pop-over not having enough room and potentially breaking the mobile layout if the expanding element is positioned too far to the right, with no way of knowing if that particular button is ever toward the left or right:



Because you never know how many of these responses will be populated. That "Reshares" button might be the only one, in which case it's to the left, or there may be "Likes" and "Dislikes" (as shown here) that push it too far to the right to properly display its pop-over.

I can't use :nth-of-type() or anything to target containers too far to the right because they collapse and even if I use the :empty pseudo-class to display: none; the ones with nothing in them they still exist regarding the count. I'd have to add checks for empty siblings for every possible combination of any, some, or all of the containers being populated or unpopulated. Oh, and there's a hidden, unused ".wall-item-comment" container in there too to deal with.

But, simply shifting this list back to a vertical one on mobile looks even worse than how it currently looks because it creates even MORE blank space to the right of the list:



So if I have to leave things as they are for the mobile layout is there any real advantage to changing to the horizontal layout for the desktop layout?

Another factor is that there is no way of ever knowing how many characters the actual count will be on any one of these response items. I looked at the Friendica code and there does not appear to be any limitation. The ONLY limitation appears to be on the pop-over list, where it is limited to showing 75 entries total (actually 74 + "and xxxx more" text).

Granted, I've never seen more than thousands of reshares on any post and that was something from a celebrity account on Mastodon, but there also doesn't appear to be anything in Friendica's code to truncate the number if it is large. For example on Facebook if it's 1,280 Likes it will truncate it to "1.2K" or if it's 26,568 Shares it will be truncate it to "26K" - there doesn't appear to be anything in Friendica's code to do that. Probably because that level of engagement is generally unlikely in the Fediverse, but still there is no way to know if the engagement count on any given response item will be one character or six or more.

This change may not be worth doing?

@xy.. @Michael 🇺🇦 @Jesper Ross Stocholm @Friendica Support

Would it help with writing the handling logic if "reactions and reshares" and "attendance" were instead on two rows, which would still bring it down from six to just two rows, and only one row for content that isn't events? At least then there's no left/right logic necessary I hope?

I need a proper development environment setup to experiment more with UI changes myself. Preferably a Docker/Podman setup that isn't vscode/microsoft-specific (devcontainer). While vagrant does support docker the friendica vagrant setup is currently only written for libvirt and virtualbox.

The left/right logic isn't a problem on desktop, it's more of a problem on mobile because the screen is so narrow if three items are shown in a row and the last one has a pop-over the position of the pop-over needs to be right: 0px; or it will partly be off-screen, which breaks the mobile layout.

I haven't given up, but it's going to need a lot more CSS logic than just a float or flex layout offer. Probably some "nth" sibling element checking for :empty or something.

I'd really like to get it working for mobile since the entire reason I started messing with this was to compact that information for the mobile layout.

I've mostly been thinking about and using the desktop layout and I think any of your suggestions would be a good improvement there as well!

I'm familiar with CSS too but I have a hard time fully visualizing the problem to come up with good suggestions. Once I have a dev setup I can hopefully help a bit more with things like this.

Ok I think I've got it! The trick was to use GRID layout not floats or flex. By using grid I can always be assured of the left/center/right placement of a response container so I can adjust the position of the pop-over if it has one.

So here's what a normal post/comment would look like on desktop:


and here is what an Event post would look like:


And a regular post/comment on a phone in portrait:


And an Event post on a phone in portrait:


And added bonus of the icon-above, centered layout for phones is it separates the touch target areas from each other making it easier to tap only the one you intend to.

I also checked to see what would happen with absurdly large engagement numbers, since Friendica doesn't appear to filter/truncate the numbers. Not that anyone will ever get this kind of engagement but I wanted to see if too many characters would break the layout:


There are some slight issues with older browsers that don't understand the :has() pseudo-class, but they are minor. On desktop the full boat of responses on an Event post aligns the "shares" and "maybe" to the right, so the icons might not line up, and the grid reserves space below for Event buttons even on regular posts and comments because I'm using :has() to get the count of items in the .wall-item-responses container to adjust the adjust the space reserved for grid-template-rows. But we'll soon be moving past the point where anyone should be using browsers that don't understand that pseudo-class or grid level 1 layout. I'm not going to worry too much about accommodating outdated browsers. Though I should probably look at this with my ancient iPad Mini and see how screwed up it is.